how statins may cause and/or worsen spinal stenois

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ZEE 2005-07-30 09:41:16

Statins may cause and/or worsen spinal stenosis. This study indicates
STATINS promote bone formation. Stenosis is new bone formation
(thickned bone) and possible attendent nerve compression in the spinal
nerve canal. Zee



http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/en trez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&d
b=pubmed&...

"New bone formation and bone thickness were significantly enhanced
following simvastatin treatment."

Biomaterials. 2005 Oct;26(29):5783-9.
Promotion of bone formation by simvastatin in polyethylene
particle-induced osteolysis.

von Knoch F, Wedemeyer C, Heckelei A, Saxler G, Hilken G, Brankamp J,
Sterner T, Landgraeber S, Henschke F, Loer F, von Knoch M.

Department of Orthopaedic Surgery, Kantonsspital Chur, Loestrasse 170,
7000 Chur, Switzerland. fabianvonkn...@yahoo.com

The effcts of statins on bone formation in periprosthetic osteolysis
have not been determined to date. We investigated the effect of the
HMG-CoA reductase inhibitor simvastatin on osteoblastic bone formation
under conditions of ultra-high molecular weight polyethylene (UHMWPE)
particle-induced osteolysis. The murine calvarial osteolysis model was
utilized in 21 C57BL/J6 mice randomized to three groups.

Group I underwent sham surgery only, group II received UHMWPE
particles, and group III, particles and simvastatin treatment. After 2
weeks, calvaria were processed for histomorphometry and stained with
Giemsa dye. New bone formation was measured as osteoid tissue area
within the midline suture. Bone thickness was quantified as indicator
of net bone growth. Statistical analysis was performed using one-way
ANOVA and a Student's t-test.

New bone formation and bone thickness were significantly enhanced
following simvastatin treatment.

New bone formation was 0.008+/-0.008 mm2 in sham controls (group I),
0.015+/-0.012 mm2 after particle implantation without further
intervention (group II), compared to 0.083+/-0.021 mm2 with particle
implantation and simvastatin treatment (group III) (p=0.003). The bone
thickness was 0.213+/-0.007 mm in group I, 0.183+/-0.005 mm in group
II, and 0.238+/-0.009 mm in group III (p=0.00008).

In conclusion, simvastatin treatment markedly promoted bone formation
and net bone growth in UHMWPE particle-induced osteolysis in a murine
calvarial model. These new findings indicate that simvastatin may have
favorable osteoanabolic effects on wear debris-mediated osteolysis
after total joint arthroplasty, involving local stimulation of
osteoblastic bone formation.

PMID: 15869791 [PubMed - in process]



<Hawki63@sbcglobal.net> 2005-07-30 17:34:58


"zee" wrote in message
news:1122741676.803622.92170@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> Statins may cause and/or worsen spinal stenosis. This study indicates
> STATINS promote bone formation. Stenosis is new bone formation
> (thickned bone) and possible attendent nerve compression in the spinal
> nerve canal. Zee


spinal stenosis is NOT new bone formation..but a narrowing of the vertebral
column...causing years and years to develop..and yes,,can eventually cause
nerve root compression and pain

it cannot ..does not..occur or worsen in three months of ANY drug
therapy....
>
>
>
> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/en trez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&d
> b=pubmed&...
>
> "New bone formation and bone thickness were significantly enhanced
> following simvastatin treatment."
>
> Biomaterials. 2005 Oct;26(29):5783-9.
> Promotion of bone formation by simvastatin in polyethylene
> particle-induced osteolysis.
>
> von Knoch F, Wedemeyer C, Heckelei A, Saxler G, Hilken G, Brankamp J,
> Sterner T, Landgraeber S, Henschke F, Loer F, von Knoch M.
>
> Department of Orthopaedic Surgery, Kantonsspital Chur, Loestrasse 170,
> 7000 Chur, Switzerland. fabianvonkn...@yahoo.com
>
> The effcts of statins on bone formation in periprosthetic osteolysis
> have not been determined to date. We investigated the effect of the
> HMG-CoA reductase inhibitor simvastatin on osteoblastic bone formation
> under conditions of ultra-high molecular weight polyethylene (UHMWPE)
> particle-induced osteolysis. The murine calvarial osteolysis model was
> utilized in 21 C57BL/J6 mice randomized to three groups.
>
> Group I underwent sham surgery only, group II received UHMWPE
> particles, and group III, particles and simvastatin treatment. After 2
> weeks, calvaria were processed for histomorphometry and stained with
> Giemsa dye. New bone formation was measured as osteoid tissue area
> within the midline suture. Bone thickness was quantified as indicator
> of net bone growth. Statistical analysis was performed using one-way
> ANOVA and a Student's t-test.
>
> New bone formation and bone thickness were significantly enhanced
> following simvastatin treatment.
>
> New bone formation was 0.008+/-0.008 mm2 in sham controls (group I),
> 0.015+/-0.012 mm2 after particle implantation without further
> intervention (group II), compared to 0.083+/-0.021 mm2 with particle
> implantation and simvastatin treatment (group III) (p=0.003). The bone
> thickness was 0.213+/-0.007 mm in group I, 0.183+/-0.005 mm in group
> II, and 0.238+/-0.009 mm in group III (p=0.00008).
>
> In conclusion, simvastatin treatment markedly promoted bone formation
> and net bone growth in UHMWPE particle-induced osteolysis in a murine
> calvarial model. These new findings indicate that simvastatin may have
> favorable osteoanabolic effects on wear debris-mediated osteolysis
> after total joint arthroplasty, involving local stimulation of
> osteoblastic bone formation.
>
> PMID: 15869791 [PubMed - in process]
>





ROBERT 2005-07-30 10:36:02


"zee" wrote in message
news:1122741676.803622.92170@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> Statins may cause and/or worsen spinal stenosis. This study indicates
> STATINS promote bone formation. Stenosis is new bone formation
> (thickned bone) and possible attendent nerve compression in the spinal
> nerve canal. Zee
>



That study has nothing to do with your premise that it causes nerve
compression.

You have turned into an ambulance chaser competing with lawyers now.




BILL 2005-07-30 23:53:15

Couldn't this be read as how statins may prevent bone fractures in the aging?

Bill

"zee" wrote in message
news:1122741676.803622.92170@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> Statins may cause and/or worsen spinal stenosis. This study indicates
> STATINS promote bone formation. Stenosis is new bone formation
> (thickned bone) and possible attendent nerve compression in the spinal
> nerve canal. Zee
>
>
>
> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/en trez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&d
> b=pubmed&...
>
> "New bone formation and bone thickness were significantly enhanced
> following simvastatin treatment."
>
> Biomaterials. 2005 Oct;26(29):5783-9.
> Promotion of bone formation by simvastatin in polyethylene
> particle-induced osteolysis.
>
> von Knoch F, Wedemeyer C, Heckelei A, Saxler G, Hilken G, Brankamp J,
> Sterner T, Landgraeber S, Henschke F, Loer F, von Knoch M.
>
> Department of Orthopaedic Surgery, Kantonsspital Chur, Loestrasse 170,
> 7000 Chur, Switzerland. fabianvonkn...@yahoo.com
>
> The effcts of statins on bone formation in periprosthetic osteolysis
> have not been determined to date. We investigated the effect of the
> HMG-CoA reductase inhibitor simvastatin on osteoblastic bone formation
> under conditions of ultra-high molecular weight polyethylene (UHMWPE)
> particle-induced osteolysis. The murine calvarial osteolysis model was
> utilized in 21 C57BL/J6 mice randomized to three groups.
>
> Group I underwent sham surgery only, group II received UHMWPE
> particles, and group III, particles and simvastatin treatment. After 2
> weeks, calvaria were processed for histomorphometry and stained with
> Giemsa dye. New bone formation was measured as osteoid tissue area
> within the midline suture. Bone thickness was quantified as indicator
> of net bone growth. Statistical analysis was performed using one-way
> ANOVA and a Student's t-test.
>
> New bone formation and bone thickness were significantly enhanced
> following simvastatin treatment.
>
> New bone formation was 0.008+/-0.008 mm2 in sham controls (group I),
> 0.015+/-0.012 mm2 after particle implantation without further
> intervention (group II), compared to 0.083+/-0.021 mm2 with particle
> implantation and simvastatin treatment (group III) (p=0.003). The bone
> thickness was 0.213+/-0.007 mm in group I, 0.183+/-0.005 mm in group
> II, and 0.238+/-0.009 mm in group III (p=0.00008).
>
> In conclusion, simvastatin treatment markedly promoted bone formation
> and net bone growth in UHMWPE particle-induced osteolysis in a murine
> calvarial model. These new findings indicate that simvastatin may have
> favorable osteoanabolic effects on wear debris-mediated osteolysis
> after total joint arthroplasty, involving local stimulation of
> osteoblastic bone formation.
>
> PMID: 15869791 [PubMed - in process]
>





ZEE 2005-07-30 17:01:07


Bill wrote:
> Couldn't this be read as how statins may prevent bone fractures in the aging?
>
> Bill



Certainly they are going to look for ways to use this. But statins are
not a good bet in the aging, particularly if they don't have
cardiovascular disease. There is too much risk to the risk/benefit
ratio.

Zee


> "zee" wrote in message
> news:1122741676.803622.92170@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> > Statins may cause and/or worsen spinal stenosis. This study indicates
> > STATINS promote bone formation. Stenosis is new bone formation
> > (thickned bone) and possible attendent nerve compression in the spinal
> > nerve canal. Zee
> >
> >
> >
> > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/en trez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&d
> > b=pubmed&...
> >
> > "New bone formation and bone thickness were significantly enhanced
> > following simvastatin treatment."
> >
> > Biomaterials. 2005 Oct;26(29):5783-9.
> > Promotion of bone formation by simvastatin in polyethylene
> > particle-induced osteolysis.
> >
> > von Knoch F, Wedemeyer C, Heckelei A, Saxler G, Hilken G, Brankamp J,
> > Sterner T, Landgraeber S, Henschke F, Loer F, von Knoch M.
> >
> > Department of Orthopaedic Surgery, Kantonsspital Chur, Loestrasse 170,
> > 7000 Chur, Switzerland. fabianvonkn...@yahoo.com
> >
> > The effcts of statins on bone formation in periprosthetic osteolysis
> > have not been determined to date. We investigated the effect of the
> > HMG-CoA reductase inhibitor simvastatin on osteoblastic bone formation
> > under conditions of ultra-high molecular weight polyethylene (UHMWPE)
> > particle-induced osteolysis. The murine calvarial osteolysis model was
> > utilized in 21 C57BL/J6 mice randomized to three groups.
> >
> > Group I underwent sham surgery only, group II received UHMWPE
> > particles, and group III, particles and simvastatin treatment. After 2
> > weeks, calvaria were processed for histomorphometry and stained with
> > Giemsa dye. New bone formation was measured as osteoid tissue area
> > within the midline suture. Bone thickness was quantified as indicator
> > of net bone growth. Statistical analysis was performed using one-way
> > ANOVA and a Student's t-test.
> >
> > New bone formation and bone thickness were significantly enhanced
> > following simvastatin treatment.
> >
> > New bone formation was 0.008+/-0.008 mm2 in sham controls (group I),
> > 0.015+/-0.012 mm2 after particle implantation without further
> > intervention (group II), compared to 0.083+/-0.021 mm2 with particle
> > implantation and simvastatin treatment (group III) (p=0.003). The bone
> > thickness was 0.213+/-0.007 mm in group I, 0.183+/-0.005 mm in group
> > II, and 0.238+/-0.009 mm in group III (p=0.00008).
> >
> > In conclusion, simvastatin treatment markedly promoted bone formation
> > and net bone growth in UHMWPE particle-induced osteolysis in a murine
> > calvarial model. These new findings indicate that simvastatin may have
> > favorable osteoanabolic effects on wear debris-mediated osteolysis
> > after total joint arthroplasty, involving local stimulation of
> > osteoblastic bone formation.
> >
> > PMID: 15869791 [PubMed - in process]
> >




SHARON HOPE 2005-07-30 19:22:23

Hawki,

I'm a little confused. How can the study get valid measurable results,
sufficient to pass the editorial jury of peers and get into print, after
reportedly only 2 weeks?

Also, how can we be certain that the thickening of a bone would be only on
the outside? If a donut shaped bone thickened, might it not thicken
throughout and thereby reduce the diameter of the 'donut hole'?

Did the paper specify? Do you have access to the full text version?


wrote in message
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>
> "zee" wrote in message
> news:1122741676.803622.92170@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
>> Statins may cause and/or worsen spinal stenosis. This study indicates
>> STATINS promote bone formation. Stenosis is new bone formation
>> (thickned bone) and possible attendent nerve compression in the spinal
>> nerve canal. Zee
>
> spinal stenosis is NOT new bone formation..but a narrowing of the
> vertebral column...causing years and years to develop..and yes,,can
> eventually cause nerve root compression and pain
>
> it cannot ..does not..occur or worsen in three months of ANY drug
> therapy....
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/en trez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&d
>> b=pubmed&...
>>
>> "New bone formation and bone thickness were significantly enhanced
>> following simvastatin treatment."
>>
>> Biomaterials. 2005 Oct;26(29):5783-9.
>> Promotion of bone formation by simvastatin in polyethylene
>> particle-induced osteolysis.
>>
>> von Knoch F, Wedemeyer C, Heckelei A, Saxler G, Hilken G, Brankamp J,
>> Sterner T, Landgraeber S, Henschke F, Loer F, von Knoch M.
>>
>> Department of Orthopaedic Surgery, Kantonsspital Chur, Loestrasse 170,
>> 7000 Chur, Switzerland. fabianvonkn...@yahoo.com
>>
>> The effcts of statins on bone formation in periprosthetic osteolysis
>> have not been determined to date. We investigated the effect of the
>> HMG-CoA reductase inhibitor simvastatin on osteoblastic bone formation
>> under conditions of ultra-high molecular weight polyethylene (UHMWPE)
>> particle-induced osteolysis. The murine calvarial osteolysis model was
>> utilized in 21 C57BL/J6 mice randomized to three groups.
>>
>> Group I underwent sham surgery only, group II received UHMWPE
>> particles, and group III, particles and simvastatin treatment. After 2
>> weeks, calvaria were processed for histomorphometry and stained with
>> Giemsa dye. New bone formation was measured as osteoid tissue area
>> within the midline suture. Bone thickness was quantified as indicator
>> of net bone growth. Statistical analysis was performed using one-way
>> ANOVA and a Student's t-test.
>>
>> New bone formation and bone thickness were significantly enhanced
>> following simvastatin treatment.
>>
>> New bone formation was 0.008+/-0.008 mm2 in sham controls (group I),
>> 0.015+/-0.012 mm2 after particle implantation without further
>> intervention (group II), compared to 0.083+/-0.021 mm2 with particle
>> implantation and simvastatin treatment (group III) (p=0.003). The bone
>> thickness was 0.213+/-0.007 mm in group I, 0.183+/-0.005 mm in group
>> II, and 0.238+/-0.009 mm in group III (p=0.00008).
>>
>> In conclusion, simvastatin treatment markedly promoted bone formation
>> and net bone growth in UHMWPE particle-induced osteolysis in a murine
>> calvarial model. These new findings indicate that simvastatin may have
>> favorable osteoanabolic effects on wear debris-mediated osteolysis
>> after total joint arthroplasty, involving local stimulation of
>> osteoblastic bone formation.
>>
>> PMID: 15869791 [PubMed - in process]
>>
>
>





<Hawki63@sbcglobal.net> 2005-07-31 20:07:15


"Sharon Hope" wrote in message
news:nYSdnWoIh4tCqHHfRVn-vg@comcast.com...
> Hawki,
>
> I'm a little confused. How can the study get valid measurable results,
> sufficient to pass the editorial jury of peers and get into print, after
> reportedly only 2 weeks?


it was a preliminary study...very preliminary...



>
> Also, how can we be certain that the thickening of a bone would be only on
> the outside? If a donut shaped bone thickened, might it not thicken
> throughout and thereby reduce the diameter of the 'donut hole'?



theoritically...it could...however..this abstract was sooo short and
statistically insignificant..who knows??

again..spinal stenosis takes YEARS to develop and years to worsen..Rita's
situation involved taking statins for a mere 3.5 months..significant bone
growth enough to cause her symptom changes...are unlikely..
>
> Did the paper specify? Do you have access to the full text version?



the paper specified WHERE this new bone growth occurred and was measured...

it specified (which Zee quoted but did not comment upon)
"These new findings indicate that simvastatin MAY have favorable
osteoanabolic effects on wear debris mediated osteolysis AFTER total joint
arthroplasty,,involving local stimulation of osteoblastic bone formation"

comments:

note the MAY have .....snip

note also that this study ONLY after total joint etc etc

in other words...it may not have been the statins AT ALL...as ALL joint
replacements begin to build new bones at the "midline suture" (quote from
the abstract)..even WITHOUT any added meds...this is the physiology of how
joint replacements work

surely at the two week mark..it is impossible to conclude that it WAS the
statins added that accounted for the change..in fact..note that the
difference was less than signifcance level which is .05...so even if there
WAS a difference it was minute..and can be attributed to other issues..ie
age and health of the patient..etc


>
>
> wrote in message
> news:6TOGe.8379$_%4.4451@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com...
>>
>> "zee" wrote in message
>> news:1122741676.803622.92170@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
>>> Statins may cause and/or worsen spinal stenosis. This study indicates
>>> STATINS promote bone formation. Stenosis is new bone formation
>>> (thickned bone) and possible attendent nerve compression in the spinal
>>> nerve canal. Zee
>>
>> spinal stenosis is NOT new bone formation..but a narrowing of the
>> vertebral column...causing years and years to develop..and yes,,can
>> eventually cause nerve root compression and pain
>>
>> it cannot ..does not..occur or worsen in three months of ANY drug
>> therapy....
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/en trez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&d
>>> b=pubmed&...
>>>
>>> "New bone formation and bone thickness were significantly enhanced
>>> following simvastatin treatment."
>>>
>>> Biomaterials. 2005 Oct;26(29):5783-9.
>>> Promotion of bone formation by simvastatin in polyethylene
>>> particle-induced osteolysis.
>>>
>>> von Knoch F, Wedemeyer C, Heckelei A, Saxler G, Hilken G, Brankamp J,
>>> Sterner T, Landgraeber S, Henschke F, Loer F, von Knoch M.
>>>
>>> Department of Orthopaedic Surgery, Kantonsspital Chur, Loestrasse 170,
>>> 7000 Chur, Switzerland. fabianvonkn...@yahoo.com
>>>
>>> The effcts of statins on bone formation in periprosthetic osteolysis
>>> have not been determined to date. We investigated the effect of the
>>> HMG-CoA reductase inhibitor simvastatin on osteoblastic bone formation
>>> under conditions of ultra-high molecular weight polyethylene (UHMWPE)
>>> particle-induced osteolysis. The murine calvarial osteolysis model was
>>> utilized in 21 C57BL/J6 mice randomized to three groups.
>>>
>>> Group I underwent sham surgery only, group II received UHMWPE
>>> particles, and group III, particles and simvastatin treatment. After 2
>>> weeks, calvaria were processed for histomorphometry and stained with
>>> Giemsa dye. New bone formation was measured as osteoid tissue area
>>> within the midline suture. Bone thickness was quantified as indicator
>>> of net bone growth. Statistical analysis was performed using one-way
>>> ANOVA and a Student's t-test.
>>>
>>> New bone formation and bone thickness were significantly enhanced
>>> following simvastatin treatment.
>>>
>>> New bone formation was 0.008+/-0.008 mm2 in sham controls (group I),
>>> 0.015+/-0.012 mm2 after particle implantation without further
>>> intervention (group II), compared to 0.083+/-0.021 mm2 with particle
>>> implantation and simvastatin treatment (group III) (p=0.003). The bone
>>> thickness was 0.213+/-0.007 mm in group I, 0.183+/-0.005 mm in group
>>> II, and 0.238+/-0.009 mm in group III (p=0.00008).
>>>
>>> In conclusion, simvastatin treatment markedly promoted bone formation
>>> and net bone growth in UHMWPE particle-induced osteolysis in a murine
>>> calvarial model. These new findings indicate that simvastatin may have
>>> favorable osteoanabolic effects on wear debris-mediated osteolysis
>>> after total joint arthroplasty, involving local stimulation of
>>> osteoblastic bone formation.
>>>
>>> PMID: 15869791 [PubMed - in process]
>>>
>>
>>
>
>







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