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Greetings,

Visited the urologist this week, I have asked fro a referral to Kings
College hospital in London for a consultation with Dr Muir regarding a PVP
op, unfortunately he does not believe the PVP op will be any better than the
BNI (TUIP) that he has recommended I have, I have refused to have the
incision for fear of its complications.

I think I will have to have a word with my GP, to se if he can help me to
get a referral.

Regards,


Peter


peter@hull-me.co.uk

"webmaster" wrote in
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> Greetings,
>
> Visited the urologist this week, I have asked fro a referral to Kings
> College hospital in London for a consultation with Dr Muir regarding a
> PVP op, unfortunately he does not believe the PVP op will be any
> better than the BNI (TUIP) that he has recommended I have, I have
> refused to have the incision for fear of its complications.
>
> I think I will have to have a word with my GP, to se if he can help me
> to get a referral.
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Peter
>
>
> peter@hull-me.co.uk
>
>
>

Keep pushing, Peter. I had similar problems though in my case the uro
initially agreed to refer me for Laserscope (he thought I meant one of the
other laser procedures which is available in Scotland), then clearly had
second thoughts and attempted to have me jump through hoops. My GP said it
was out of the question. Didn't work because these are tactics I have
employed myself in the past to get rid of nuisances!

I suggest you contact some of the patient advisory groups and find out what
your rights are. I suspect your uro will have to present a clear case why
he will not refer you. I am pretty sure you have the right to alternative
treatment if it is available (which it is) and suitable for your case.

Things within the NHS have changed dramatically in recent years. Offer to
hand out leaflets and parade outside the hospital with a banner after
tipping off the media and I guarantee things will happen! You could even
right to Our Leader.

Derry

My own method is to demonstrate that life will be easier

Greetings,

"Derry Argue"


What is your position Derek, have you had a referral yet? or the op you were
waiting for last time I was on, I have not been around for a while because
of other health problems.

I am definitely going to see my GP again and see if he is able to do
anything at all, the Urologist pushed for his speciality a BNI, he dismisses
the side effects as minimal, I have learnt otherwise.

At present I have to use a sheath and leg bag if I go anywhere because of
the frequency and urgency, I would rather continue with this because at
least my other functions are normal, rather than have a BNI and suffer the
rest of my life.
--
Regards,


Peter


peter@hull-me.co.uk

Peter, I've had two Tuip's. I had a small amount of retrograde ejaculation.
A Turp couldn't be done since there was no blockage. There was also a bit
of surgery on a bladder neck resection. I'm waiting until laserscope comes
to Eugene. I too would prefer any laser surgery be done with a laserscope
PVP, but since I've already had two Tuip's I don't think there would be much
difference, but why take the chance.


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> Greetings,
>
> Visited the urologist this week, I have asked fro a referral to Kings
> College hospital in London for a consultation with Dr Muir regarding a PVP
> op, unfortunately he does not believe the PVP op will be any better than

the

> BNI (TUIP) that he has recommended I have, I have refused to have the
> incision for fear of its complications.
>
> I think I will have to have a word with my GP, to se if he can help me to
> get a referral.
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Peter
>
>
> peter@hull-me.co.uk
>
>

Greetings,

"TonytheTiger" wrote

> Peter, I've had two Tuip's. I had a small amount of retrograde

ejaculation.

> A Turp couldn't be done since there was no blockage. There was also a bit
> of surgery on a bladder neck resection. I'm waiting until laserscope

comes

> to Eugene. I too would prefer any laser surgery be done with a laserscope
> PVP, but since I've already had two Tuip's I don't think there would be

much

> difference, but why take the chance.

Ah! you seem to have a similar problem to me, a restriction in the bladder
neck/prostate?

The consultant is adamant about carrying out a BNI or TUIP, even though he
agrees that there is some chance of the three problems we all dread after
surgery.

I will pursue the matter with my GP at the earliest opportunity, I need to
have some kind of surgery done because of the problems I am having, but
preferably not with a hot knife! so the PVP is the alternative I would like,
even though the Urologist suggested that it is not perfected, he also
suggests that it has been tried before and not been successful, but that was
before PVP laserscope came on the scene.

How is your problems now Tony? do you still have frequency, urgency,
retrograde ejaculation? what is your age?
--
Regards


Peter


peter@kissag.co.uk


www.speakingout.org.uk
www.hull-me.co.uk

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> Greetings,
>
> "TonytheTiger" wrote
>
> > Peter, I've had two Tuip's. I had a small amount of retrograde
> ejaculation.
> > A Turp couldn't be done since there was no blockage. There was also a

bit

> > of surgery on a bladder neck resection. I'm waiting until laserscope
> comes
> > to Eugene. I too would prefer any laser surgery be done with a

laserscope

> > PVP, but since I've already had two Tuip's I don't think there would be
> much
> > difference, but why take the chance.
>
> Ah! you seem to have a similar problem to me, a restriction in the bladder
> neck/prostate?
>
> The consultant is adamant about carrying out a BNI or TUIP, even though he
> agrees that there is some chance of the three problems we all dread after
> surgery.
>
> I will pursue the matter with my GP at the earliest opportunity, I need to
> have some kind of surgery done because of the problems I am having, but
> preferably not with a hot knife! so the PVP is the alternative I would

like,

> even though the Urologist suggested that it is not perfected, he also
> suggests that it has been tried before and not been successful, but that

was

> before PVP laserscope came on the scene.
>
> How is your problems now Tony? do you still have frequency, urgency,
> retrograde ejaculation? what is your age?
> --
> Regards
>
>
> Peter
> Peter, I have frequency, approximately every two hours. More often if I

drink fluids, say in an hour after 8 oz of water. No urgency whatsoever.
The slight retrograde ejacuation is no problem to be. I would estimate my
ejaculate is 90% of prior to surgery. I'm 60. I also need longer to
initiate urination about 30 seconds compared to 10 seconds after surgery. I
don't believe there is much chance of incontinence or impotence after a TUIP
or TURP. Retro is another matter. I would guess it's about 70% with TURP,
40% with PVP. But the way I look at it, I have no choice due to the
frequency.

>
> peter@kissag.co.uk
>
>
> www.speakingout.org.uk
> www.hull-me.co.uk
>
>
>

Hi,

I'm real sorry for you guys in the UK.
If I understand right, the NHS is free but you don't have a choice of
treatment? From reading this NG, I think, PVP is cheaper than TURP.
Certainly the recovery is much cheaper because there is less hospital stay
involved. Maybe this an argument you can pitch to your uros. My PVP cost
about $ 16,000 which was covered almost entirely by Medicare (US national
Health equivalent for seniors) and supplemental insurance.

Good luck

Fred Henzi

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> Greetings,
>
> Visited the urologist this week, I have asked fro a referral to Kings
> College hospital in London for a consultation with Dr Muir regarding a PVP
> op, unfortunately he does not believe the PVP op will be any better than

the

> BNI (TUIP) that he has recommended I have, I have refused to have the
> incision for fear of its complications.
>
> I think I will have to have a word with my GP, to se if he can help me to
> get a referral.
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Peter
>
>
> peter@hull-me.co.uk
>
>